we have educators. they do a spectacular job. i would make a pitch, however, for the doctrine of primary care setting. when someone walks into the office and says, i hurt, i've got a pain in my belly, or my head doesn't feel right, having gone to medical school and -- spent absolutely. >> not only does that at on the quality side, but our experience is that our physicians tend to utilize some of the expensive answered services. >> that's been our experience, too. >> it does tend to keep the cost down. >> just to follow-up on that, i agree with that completely. i think that there are, by the same token every day practice there's lots of stuff that is more routine that isn't diagnostic. its ongoing maintenance of on, get a diabetics and so forth. or even a complicated -- [talking over each other] >> our nurses are way better at taking care people than i am student sure. i'll tell you, real practical outcome of being able to organize that way is it's an important solution in my opinion to the primary care shortage. because a busy pr